Pigeon Control FAQ | Bird Control FAQ
We are Pigeon Control Phoenix and we've been dealing with Phoenix pigeons, pigeon netting, bird control Phoenix and pigeon control Phoenix for a long time. Phoenix pigeons are going crazy out there and their population is growing at an alarming rate. That's why the search terms 'bird control Phoenix' and 'pigeon control Phoenix' are so popular. Phoenix pigeon control is serious business simply because pigeons present so many problems. Their poop is extremely acidic - so much so that it'll damage almost anything. And it harbors bacteria and parasites that aren't good for man or beast.
The problem shows up in many different places and in many different forms. Pigeon nest removal, spike strips on ledges, bird netting for excluding them from getting into protected spaces like under solar panels, in the nooks between the roof lines or under a/c or evap units up on the roof. Humane pigeon and bird removal is what we do and we believe we're the best in Phoenix AZ. So if you're looking for the best professional pigeon control in Arizona you found it. We serve the entire state of Arizona and, depending on where you're located, offer free quotes too.
Whether you're in Surprise AZ, Glendale AZ, Goodyear AZ, Mesa AZ, Sun City or Sun City West AZ, Anthem AZ or anywhere else in the greater Phoenix, Arizona area, we can get rid of your pigeons. We're actually professional pigeon control installers and experts in everything bird control. You simply can't do better with any other company because no other company has more total experience or better overall results than we do.
Does Pigeon Gel Work?
Repellent gels have been around for a long time and there are many different versions available. They can be a legitimate part of an effective bird control program. The application of a bird repellent gel will theoretically work to deter any bird species. That is, as long as it's applied correctly for the specific bird problem you're dealing with. If you're looking for effective pigeon control, the gel should be applies in a bead roughly the circumference of a #2 pencil. You want it applied in an irregular pattern, never leaving gaps of more than a few inches wide. For smaller birds, the circumference of the bead should be much smaller so swallows and other small species don't get stuck in the larger beads of gel. The spacing should also be closer. We do not recommend applying any pigeon repellent gel to solar panels.
How Do You Remove Bird Repellent Gel?
The fact is that this product will need to be removed and reinstalled every 6-12 months. The longer is sits out in the open, the more dirt, feathers, feces, etc. will stick to it, making it less and less effective and more and more visible. Mineral spirits work great and can be purchased at most hardware and/or home improvement stores.
What Is Bird Slide?
Bird Slide is manufactured by Bird Barrier. There is also a version called Bird Slope which is made available by Bird-B-Gone. Both are essentially the same. It's intended to protect ledges from roosting birds by creating a slippery surface that they are not able to stand on. This product is generally effective against any species of bird if installed correctly. It can be painted to make it match the structure and will in most cases last a long time. NOTE: this product should be cleaned periodically. As the surface becomes dirty with bird feces, dust, etc., it may be possible for some species of birds to roost on it.
Are there other applications for Bird Slope??
Yes! It can be installed upside down under eaves, I-beams, angle irons, above window sills and other similar places to deter other birds, such as Cliff Swallows. NOTE: check all local and national laws before attempting to eradicate bird problems. Some are protected.
What Is Optical Gel?
Optical Gel is some of the most recent technology in the bird control industry as of this writing in February, 2020. It's what Bird Barrier calls a multi-sensory bird repellent. They call it that because it is supposed to repel birds using sight, smell and touch, which is a new take on bird control products.
How does Optical Gel work?
- Sight: The gel comes in small, round dishes or trays, and appear as a sort of fire and/or smoke to birds.
- Smell: It's long been know that birds do not care for the odors that are produced by citronella and peppermint oil. People like them, but they don't.
- Tough: Repellent bird gels have been a part of the arsenal for years, so the fact that they don't like the stickiness of Optical Gel comes as no surprise.
It works so well in many situations that we wish they would come up with a version for bat removal and prevention, too.
Where can Optical Gel be used?
The cool thing about Optical Gel is that it's so easy to use. Simply affix the trays to whatever surface you need to protect. As long as you follow the instructions on the label as far as spacing goes, it's supposed to work on all species of birds. Surfaces include:
- A/C Units
- Evap Units
What is a Daddi Long Legs?
The Daddi Long Legs, as well as the Bird Spider, is considered a medium pressure pigeon control product. Meaning that it may not work where the pigeons are extremely committed to the structure. I like to describe it as a 'Limited Surface Protector' as I've had tremendous success protecting chimneys, roof-mounted A/C / evap units, and other such small perching surfaces. A Daddi Long Legs sometimes needs to be augmented with other products/installations such as a repellent gel or Optical Gel to be effective. It can also be an effective solution for water features and beach entries if used correctly. One of the more common uses is on boats to help discourage seagulls and other water fowl from roosting - and pooping.
Where/why would a Daddi Long Legs not be effective?
This particular pigeon control product does not - in general terms - work well to control other species of birds. That IS NOT written in stone, however. There are products that are literally called 'Ledge Products' and are made specifically for protecting a ledge, such as Pigeon Spike Strips. Daddi Ling Legs are not usually a great choice for this application. And they won't work to keep pigeons off of the roof or out from under solar panels. The misuse of this, and pretty much all, pigeon control product can embolden the pigeons and make them harder to get rid of. Though easy to install (3 screws), proper placement and it's inclusion into an effective pigeon control program are critical to it's overall effectiveness.
Flash Tape for pigeon control?
Flash tape can be an option for some bird control situations, but it's usually used incorrectly. Most of the time it is just one ingredient in an overall pigeon control program - not the total solution all by itself. The premise is that flash tape can introduce some movement into an area which can make birds uncomfortable. Combined with color and light reflection, the hope is that it will get the birds to move on. Whereas, pigeon spike is more of a physical barrier which protects a specific ledge and pigeon netting is an exclusion product that keeps them out of an area all together. We've found that flash tape can be effective but only in certain situations.
Another thing that we've found through the years is that bad bird control can actually make the problem harder to get rid of in the long term. If you use flash tape - or anything else - to scare birds away and it doesn't work, they will likely just become more resilient and stubborn and the problem gets harder to solve as a result. A great example is when pigeons become trap shy because the trapping program was done incorrectly. Nickle and diming a bird problem almost always ends up costing more before the problem is licked. And flash tape can be a bit unsightly, depending on where it's used. We really advise getting good information and putting together a well thought out plan before proceeding. Of course, if you call us we'll give you a free quote and we'll guarantee the work should you hire us.
We serve the entire metro Phoenix area, so no matter where you're located we can help. That includes west valley cities such as Buckeye, Glendale, Peoria, Surprise, Waddell and Goodyear. Plus east valley cities such as Scottsdale, Chandler, Gilbert, Cave Creek and Tempe.
How does pigeon netting work?
Pigeon netting is really one of the more effective pigeon control products as far as keeping them out of partially enclosed areas. Of course that's dependent on the netting being the right product for a specific situation and it being installed correctly. We've installed a ton of pigeon netting in the Phoenix AZ area through the years, often combined with other bird control products such as bird spike strips, screening, etc. for an all encompassing pigeon control solution for our customer.
What are some examples of how pigeon netting should be used?
When you think of pigeon netting as a solution to a pigeon problem, think of partially enclosed spaces that provide the birds with shelter. Spaces such as under roof mounted air conditioners or where two roof lines meet up on your roof to create a nook. One of the more common commercial uses is to install it to create a false ceiling under an awning, airplane hanger or loading dock. If done correctly, the netting will protect all of the conduit, piping, beams and lights that pigeons love to roost on. The netting must be installed very taught - so it can't move around in the wind - and straight. It also must be installed flush against the buildings surfaces whether that be a wall, eave, awning or the roof. These spaces should be cleaned and sanitized before installation. There are literally thousands of different applications for pigeon netting. It's a very versatile pigeon control product.
What are some examples of where not to use pigeon netting?
There are lots of places where pigeon netting should not be used. It should never be installed in a place where it will be exposed to extreme heat or fire such as a chimney. It also shouldn't be installed anywhere that could make it difficult for people to enter and exit spaces they need to get to. We can install zippers in many cases to remedy that situation. Netting is not the correct product for the top of the roof, or on ledges or pop outs. It just won't work in those places. And it's usually not the best product to use to prevent pigeons from getting under solar panels. Screening works better there. Even if it's installed in the right places, if it's not installed exactly right it won't work - we see it all of the time.
Can pigeons damage solar panels?
Absolutely. Positively. With out a doubt. You can bank on it. If pigeons are on your roof and you have solar panels, they ARE pooping on them and damaging them as you read this. The sooner you get rid of the pigeons under your solar panels the better and we're the best at it anywhere in Phoenix.
How do pigeons damage solar panels?
By pooping. And nothing poops like a pigeon. Their poop not only accumulates at an alarming rate, but it's also extremely acidic and damages just about anything it lands on. That very much includes solar panels. When pigeons are under solar panels raising a family, they spend an awful lot of time out on the roof - and on the solar panels - hanging out with their friends and family. And, of course, they are pooping constantly. No matter where they are or who's watching, pigeons are pooping. The more they poop on the panels, they less effective they are at gathering the sun light and producing power. If left for a long period of time, pigeons are quite capable of absolutely ruining the panels. And it looks terrible, too!
How do you stop pigeons from going under your solar panels?
First, the area under the solar panels needs to be thoroughly cleaned and disinfected to minimize the health risks to the home owner and their family. Then this protected area needs to be taken away from the pigeons permanently. A good, sturdy mesh/screening is the proper product and it needs to be installed in such a way as to not actually be permanently attached to the panels themselves. This is important as gluing and/or screwing into the panels will void the warranty. The panels themselves should be cleaned with the proper cleaning solutions and equipment, too. If there are any other problem areas on the structure, they should be taken care of as well. If the pigeons are left to live on the building they will continue to poop on the solar panels.
Do pigeons traps work for pigeon removal?
Pigeon trapping has been a staple of the bird control industry in the Phoenix AZ area for many years. Why? Well, that's a loaded question. While trapping is a viable part of many pigeon control programs, it must be done correctly. Otherwise it will not only be ineffective but may actually short circuit the entire program and thus the results. It's important that you know how to trap pigeons before taking it on.
What are the benefits of a pigeon trapping program?
The longer the pigeons have been on a given structure, the harder it is to totally get rid of them. They are very stubborn to start with and get more and more so the longer they are there. Even the very best pigeon proofing efforts may only move the birds from where they are currently nesting to somewhere else on the building. They will even move their nests right out into the open areas of a roof if that's what it takes to stay there. This is where a trapping program, along with the exclusion work, makes the most sense. The bird netting, spike strips, screening, etc. will keep pigeons out of the areas that attracted them to the structure in the first place (such as under solar panels or roof-mounted air conditioning units) and will therefore prevent a new problem from developing in the future. Then the trapping will help remove the current, most stubborn birds that won't give it up. If it's done right, that is. Note: trapping alone does nothing to prevent new pigeons from setting up shop in the same places later.
What are the problems with a trapping program?
Trapping, regardless of the critter, needs to be done correctly. That is especially true of pigeons as they are at least a little trap cautious by their very nature. Pre-baiting is critical for a successful program and you can't be in a hurry. Sometimes it takes a week or two and sometimes a month or more to get bait and trap acceptance. Then the actual removal process must also be done correctly, too. Usually there will be a minimum of two removals because you probably won't catch them all the first time. So you don't want them to suffer or die in the trap or you may have a hard time catching the rest tomorrow. And - here's the big one - they need to be released at least 50 miles away. That's where a lazy 'expert' may fall short. The cost of the relocation needs to be figured into the original quote and done right. If the birds are not taken far enough away they will be back and they will be 'trap shy', which means you'll never catch them in a trap again.
Do you offer HOA approved pigeon control?
HOA's are a many in the Phoenix AZ area. Though sometimes a bit over zealous, they just want to protect property values and make sure that everyone plays nicely. As far as pigeon control goes, what they don't want is ugly stuff that you can see from a block away and that doesn't in any way match the home in a given neighborhood. Ever see fifty feet of plastic bird spike on the edge of the roof above the front door? Or solar panels that are just covered in pigeon poop? It doesn't look too good. Luckily, all of our work is either hard to see or made to match the structure so that aesthetics are not impacted any more than necessary to get rid of the birds. That's important for the home owner, the HOA, and for our reputation. One thing is for sure: all of our work looks better than pigeon crap🙂 And it's not nearly as bad for your health, either!
Is pigeon poop toxic or poisonous?
Yes! Pigeon poop or feces can harbor some 60 known diseases and 40 parasites. Their nests are just disgusting and often contain dead birds, maggots and a variety of bugs. They'll nest under roof mounted air conditioning units, under solar panels, in chimneys and all sorts of other nooks and crannies. The poop dries into a powdery state, becoming extremely movable and therefore airborne. If you have pigeons on your home or business you are certainly breathing their feces to one extent or another. And you can look up and have your HOA breathing down your back, too, as pigeon problems can effect property values. That's why cleaning the targeted surfaces is included with every job we do.
Is cleaning the pigeon feces included if I hire you?
Absolutely NOTHING poops like a pigeon. That's usually the main reason why the customer called in the first place. They don't want to live with it and we don't want to work in it so we clean up the mess before we do the actually exclusion work with every job we do.
What problems are caused by pigeon feces?
There are a couple of very real problems with pigeon feces:
- There's just so much of it! It's everywhere, all of the time!
- It clogs up the roof drainage system, rain gutters and anywhere else it accumulates.
- It attracts the pigeons who live there back for life.
- It's embarrassing! And can bring HOA fines.
- It can create an unhealthy environment for humans and their pets.
What do you do as far as the cleaning goes?
We will spray down and disinfect the areas that we are targeting with our work. Then we'll spray down the walls, cement, walkways, etc. below where the feces may have accumulated. We will also remove and bag up any large accumulations of feces and/or nesting whether it be under a roof-mounted A/C unit, in a roof line nook, in a chimney spark arrestor, under roof mounted solar panels, etc. Some times the total amount of poop can be a little crazy but the amount of time needed for the cleaning is factored in to the quote you received up front. No surprises.
Do you offer pigeon control near me?
Phoenix Arizona is a big town and we cover all of it. Are you in the southeast valley such as Gilbert, Mesa, Chandler or Queen Creek? Or maybe it's the northwest cities of Surprise, Peoria, Glendale. If you have a pigeon problem in the northeast valley like Scottsdale, Carefree, Cave Creek or Fountain Hills - we've got you covered. And don't worry southwest valley; we also go to Buckeye, Goodyear, Litchfield Park and Avondale. We even cover some of the just-out-of-town places like Casa Grande, Florence, New River and Morristown.
What cities in the east valley do you cover?
- Apache Junction
- Casa Grande
- Cave Creek
- Fountain Hills
- Gold Canyon
- Paradise Valley
- Queen Creek
- Rio Verde
- San Tan Valley
- Sun Lakes
What cities in the west valley do you cover?
- El Mirage
- Litchfield Park
- New River
- Sun City
- Sun City Festival
- Sun City Grand
- Sun City West
- Everywhere Nearby
Why are pigeons under the solar panels on my roof?
Pigeons love to live and nest under the solar panels on the roof of our homes and business's. And it's apparently working out really well for them because it's becoming a huge problem throughout the Phoenix AZ area.
What about solar panels attracts the pigeons?
It's pretty simple, really. Pigeons need the same things every other critter needs: food, water and shelter. Roof mounted solar panels offer the shelter they need right in the middle of our neighborhoods where they find the food and water they need. The panels also offer the added bonus of being up high, which is where most birds want to live, and of facilitating the pigeons need for community as lots of their friends and neighbors live up there, too. They start out leaning against the support brackets under the panels and that's generally where the first nests are built. Over time, as the feces, twigs, dead birds, etc. accumulates under the panels and the pigeon population grows, they are able to nest just about anywhere on the roof - and do.
Why should I have the pigeons removed from under the solar panels?
Of course, no matter where pigeons hang out, they are constantly pooping. A lot. All of the time. Pigeon feces is very acidic and over time will literally destroy the solar panels and the roofing materials that they roost on every day. Bird poop is also an unhealthy addition to human's environment as it harbors many known diseases and parasites. If you have pigeons living under solar panels or anywhere else on your roof you and your family/co-workers are breathing their feces daily. And a pigeon problem of any kind is embarrassing, frustrating and lowers property values. It always costs more the longer you wait.
Why are there so many bird control companies in Phoenix?
If there weren't a lot of pest bird problems here in the Phoenix AZ area there wouldn't be a lot of bird control companies. It's that simple. Necessity is the mother of invention, or something like that, right? Birds - mostly pigeons - have become a huge pest control problem and, as a result, folks are looking for solutions. Unfortunately, all bird control companies in Phoenix are not created equally so you gotta be careful when choosing one to spend your hard earned dollars with.
What should I look for in a bird control company?
Obviously you want to check out any company's online reputation. These days, it's hard to hide. If you can get a referral from someone you know who had a good experience with bird control, even better. But, beyond that, it can be hard to know what to do when you're buying something as obscure as bird control. We only get one chance to make a good first impression, so were they responsive when you originally reached out to them? Did they show up when they said they would? That alone can tell you a lot about a person and/or company. Next, do they have a plan that they really seem to have a good grasp of and can they relay that information to you in a way that allows you to really understand it, too? You shouldn't buy something you do not have at least a rudimentary understanding of. That's the best way to get burned.
What should I be cautious of when it comes to a bird control company?
A bad online reputation is just that - bad. Again, if they can't keep their appointment that can raise a red flag, as well. But one of the biggest things is their solution to your bird problem and how they convey that info to you. If they're bouncing around or changing stuff just to please you, be careful. A real professional knows what it takes to get the job done and isn't easy to sway. If they're trying too hard and giving up on their plan easily, move on to someone else. Bird control can be done a thousand different ways but, in general terms, only one or two is apt to be the correct way. The last thing you need is bird control that's ugly or doesn't work or both. And cleaning up the poop should be included with every quote.
How do pigeons become trap shy?
Trapping critters can be tricky, regardless of what, where or why. That said, there's a right way to implement a pigeon trapping and removal program and a lot of wrong ways. Doing it incorrectly or being lazy about the details can destroy a trapping program and make the pigeons trap shy, which means very difficult to ever catch in a trap. There are a few things that stick out as real trapping program killers:
- Bad traps. Traps are like most any other piece of equipment: they need to be taken care of and maintained on a regular basis. Moving parts need to be oiled regularly so they work smoothly and quietly. Only food grade oils should ever be used on a trap.
- Traps should be 'seasoned', meaning they should smell like the critter your trying to catch. Every time you catch pigeons in a given trap, that trap becomes more seasoned and therefore more effective. Cleaning isn't generally a good idea for that reason.
- Lack of pre-baiting. The trap should be wired open and baited several times before trying to remove birds. A lazy bird control expert may try to remove the birds too soon, resulting in a smaller number of birds taken. When this happens, the rest of the birds may become more cautious of the trap. You need ALL of the pigeons literally fighting over the bait together as a community for optimum results.
- Leaving birds in the traps for extended periods of time. If they suffer and/or die in the trap, the rest of the population will likely not go into the trap - ever. Making the birds suffer is not a good thing to do anyway and can also get you in hot water with folks if they find out.
- Not taking the pigeons at least 50 miles away. Once released, the pigeons will tray to find their way back home - and they're really good at that. If they do, they'll never go into a trap again and you'll have an upset customer for sure.
Just from this small sampling of information you can see that there are a lot of ways to mess up a trapping program. And for the lazy or uninformed bird control expert, there are many more. There are tons of pigeon control companies out there that are in too big of a hurry to do it right and the customer always ends up paying for it. You won't have that problem with us - we promise! Call, text or fill out our contact form and get your pigeon control done right the first time.
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